In a stunning contradiction that defies her 2021 guilty verdict, newly released 2025 transcripts capture Ghislaine Maxwell calmly telling Justice Department interviewers from her prison cell that she never witnessed Jeffrey Epstein abuse underage girls in her presence, the legendary “client list” is nothing but a myth she knows nothing about, and she harbors serious doubts that his 2019 jail death was truly suicide—though she stops short of endorsing conspiracy theories. These bold assertions, made under limited immunity amid political pressure on the Epstein case, directly undermine mountains of trial evidence, victim testimonies, and her conviction for grooming and trafficking teens, unleashing waves of survivor outrage who brand it a cynical rewrite of history while fueling intense speculation about her motives and potential bids for leniency.
In a stunning contradiction that defies her 2021 guilty verdict, newly released 2025 transcripts capture Ghislaine Maxwell calmly telling Justice Department interviewers from her prison cell that she never witnessed Jeffrey Epstein abuse underage girls in her presence, the legendary “client list” is nothing but a myth she knows nothing about, and she harbors serious doubts that his 2019 jail death was truly suicide—though she stops short of endorsing conspiracy theories.
The 337-page transcript and audio recordings, released by the U.S. Department of Justice on August 22, 2025, document a two-day July interview conducted by Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche at the federal prison in Tallahassee, Florida (where Maxwell was held before a later transfer). Granted limited immunity for her statements—with no promises of leniency—Maxwell spoke poised and at length, maintaining her innocence while addressing long-standing rumors amid intense political scrutiny over Epstein-related files.
Maxwell, now 63 and serving a 20-year sentence for sex trafficking minors and related charges, repeatedly denied direct knowledge of abuse. “I never witnessed any inappropriate conduct” involving minors, she stated, acknowledging Epstein’s wrongdoing but claiming it evolved without her observation of criminal acts against underage girls. This directly undermines trial evidence where four victims testified Maxwell groomed and facilitated their abuse as teens between 1994 and 2004.
On the infamous “client list”—a rumored roster of powerful figures allegedly involved in Epstein’s crimes—Maxwell was unequivocal: “There is no list that I am aware of. There never was a list.” She suggested the notion stemmed from early civil lawsuits but denied any blackmail operation or incriminating records.
Regarding Epstein’s August 2019 death in a Manhattan jail—officially ruled suicide by hanging—Maxwell expressed clear skepticism: “I do not believe he died by suicide, no.” Based on her knowledge of Epstein as non-suicidal and citing prison mismanagement, she speculated it might have been an “internal situation,” such as inmate violence (noting hits cost little in commissary). However, she dismissed external murder plots to silence him as “ludicrous,” arguing opportunities existed earlier if that were the motive.
These bold assertions, made under limited immunity amid political pressure on the Epstein case (including demands for full file releases), directly undermine mountains of trial evidence, victim testimonies, and her conviction for grooming and trafficking teens. Survivors and advocates reacted with outrage, calling the interview a platform to “rewrite history.” Attorneys like Brittany Henderson criticized it as insensitive, especially amid speculation of deals tied to Maxwell’s prison transfer.
The release, part of broader Epstein document disclosures in 2025, has fueled intense speculation about Maxwell’s motives—possibly tied to appeals, clemency hopes, or strategic positioning. Her lawyer praised the transparency, insisting the materials prove her innocence. Yet for victims, the denials reopen wounds, highlighting enduring tensions in one of America’s most notorious scandals.
As Maxwell pursues legal challenges, including appeals rejected by higher courts, her words from prison underscore unresolved questions while clashing starkly with established facts.
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